The 308 round is a 62,000 psia round, if these HP White tests are to believed, you don’t have a 2:1 safety margin. You can find the information in the 1969? Gun Digest. When Ruger tested its M77 bolt, made from modern 4140 steel, against M98 and 03 bolts, the Ruger bolt was at least ½ to 1/3 stronger. The load test does not provide a comparison against anything. Lot sampling makes the assumption that the samples tested are representative of the lot.īut is this case, is it true? Was Spanish quality control so good that decades of production, decades of rebuilds, that we can believe a small test sample represents the entire production? We don't know if the rifles were rebuilt from 1893's or were new M1916's. We don't know if the receivers tested were late model or early model. SAMCO sent a number of M1916's to HP White. Why would SAMCO spend so much time “proving” that these rifles are safe? Maybe it is because they have a deserved reputation for being defective. Or have you never had a bad experience after bought something you saw in an advert? People with a financial incentive are not going to be objective. Garry James was paid to write that infomercial and he was paid by the importer. I am not a big fan of these very old rifles and I don't have a big inventory of them to sell. That should settle the issue once and for all. Last edited by Ignition Override Maat 11:57 PM. 308 or 7.62x51 NATO should be fine in the FR8, but maybe not in the (M43) FR7. Some of these rifles were converted to the post-WW2 Spanish FR8 (7.62x51) carbine, and with the stronger M44 chambers designed for 8mm Mauser, using either. On a side note, numerous sources claim that the (later?) Spanish M43 Mauser is not nearly as strong an action as in the M44 (8mm Mauser). My Mauser buddies seem to believe that the pre-1900 actions have the weakest steel chambers etc if I understand correctly.Īs to whether rifles built years after 1910 (or so) are strong enough for. I went over and thanked the other, more responsible seller. When I asked this guy about it, he seemed not to know, but a Second seller from Fayette County who was behind him looked at me and slowly shook his head. Have you contacted people on Surplusrifle or Gunboards' Mauser forums?Ī seller last year at a Southaven MS show either was ignorant of the converted (classic 7mm to NATO 7.62) design limit issues, or did not care. The article did not state whether his ammo was. This Might have been manufactured before 1900. According to the newspaper article link somewhere, a guy at a range in PA was killed while shooting one of the original 7mm Spanish Mausers which had been converted to '.308'.
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